About A2 improvements
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About A2 improvements
Hi all again,
I have heard some things about the improvementes introduced in the A2, and would like you please to cofirm them:
1) Security handler for the passenger, 2) Signaler of the risk of turn, integrated and waterproof with four types of warning sparkles 3)Pedals of nail and nonskid brake. 4) Electrical windshield wiper of two speeds, including a greater surface of the windshield.5)Ampler and reinforced windshield of a single piece. 6) Deep plate that absube the energy of the steering wheel. 7)Improvement of the system of front and back lights. Lights of class “A”. System of brakes improved with cylinders of greater size to balance the breaking and to reduce the skid.9)Higher back window, extending vision of the drivers with overturns putting. 10) Inner rear mirror. 11) water for windshield cleaning. 12) Lateral and back reflectors of high intensity. 13) Embroider of the frontal seats with seat belts of security. -
Sorry about my elnglish, it isn´t as good as I wish.
Is all this true about the A2s?
Many thanks in advance.
Regards
I have heard some things about the improvementes introduced in the A2, and would like you please to cofirm them:
1) Security handler for the passenger, 2) Signaler of the risk of turn, integrated and waterproof with four types of warning sparkles 3)Pedals of nail and nonskid brake. 4) Electrical windshield wiper of two speeds, including a greater surface of the windshield.5)Ampler and reinforced windshield of a single piece. 6) Deep plate that absube the energy of the steering wheel. 7)Improvement of the system of front and back lights. Lights of class “A”. System of brakes improved with cylinders of greater size to balance the breaking and to reduce the skid.9)Higher back window, extending vision of the drivers with overturns putting. 10) Inner rear mirror. 11) water for windshield cleaning. 12) Lateral and back reflectors of high intensity. 13) Embroider of the frontal seats with seat belts of security. -
Sorry about my elnglish, it isn´t as good as I wish.
Is all this true about the A2s?
Many thanks in advance.
Regards
1977 AMG M151 A2
1955 Oldsmobile Super 88
109" lightweight LR Santana
1951 Motobecane Av3
1956 Motobecane Av78
1981 Land Rover Santana 88" Especial
1978 series III 109" land rover Santana
Gone: M37b1, WC51, willys jeeps, M201 jeeps land rovers and so....
1955 Oldsmobile Super 88
109" lightweight LR Santana
1951 Motobecane Av3
1956 Motobecane Av78
1981 Land Rover Santana 88" Especial
1978 series III 109" land rover Santana
Gone: M37b1, WC51, willys jeeps, M201 jeeps land rovers and so....
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Re: About A2 improvements
You have studied the A-2 very well. 2 things I would add are
improved suspension to help prevent roll overs
ROPS (Roll Over Protection System)..the metal frame protects driver and passengers
improved suspension to help prevent roll overs
ROPS (Roll Over Protection System)..the metal frame protects driver and passengers
Ralph
1967 M151A1
1967 M151A1
1967 M416
1947 Bantam TC-3 trailer
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1967 M151A1
1967 M151A1
1967 M416
1947 Bantam TC-3 trailer
If The Phone Don't Ring ... You'll Know It's Me
Airborne Ranger CIB Vietnam
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Re: About A2 improvements
Dear Ralph,
Thank you for the reply. You are absolutely right, I forgot the most important, but it is also the most known improvements of the A2s. Regarding the Signaler of the risck or roll over, How is it? is there any pic available? How does it work? I think it is a great save advantage.
Many thanks for all
Regards
Thank you for the reply. You are absolutely right, I forgot the most important, but it is also the most known improvements of the A2s. Regarding the Signaler of the risck or roll over, How is it? is there any pic available? How does it work? I think it is a great save advantage.
Many thanks for all
Regards
1977 AMG M151 A2
1955 Oldsmobile Super 88
109" lightweight LR Santana
1951 Motobecane Av3
1956 Motobecane Av78
1981 Land Rover Santana 88" Especial
1978 series III 109" land rover Santana
Gone: M37b1, WC51, willys jeeps, M201 jeeps land rovers and so....
1955 Oldsmobile Super 88
109" lightweight LR Santana
1951 Motobecane Av3
1956 Motobecane Av78
1981 Land Rover Santana 88" Especial
1978 series III 109" land rover Santana
Gone: M37b1, WC51, willys jeeps, M201 jeeps land rovers and so....
Re: About A2 improvements
Hey Muttero,
I do believe the language is a a small barrier. You wrote "Signaler of the risk or roll over". Not sure exactly what you are asking, but the suspension of the A2 was improved to prevent rollover. Many of the improvements you mention happened in the M151A1, and the M151A2. In addition, a safety cage was also installed to protect the driver in the event of a rollover. Seat belts for security were only installed in the M151's with the Roll Over Protection System, but could have been also in the A1 type, not only A2 type.
Sorry if I added to the confusion.
Rainman
I do believe the language is a a small barrier. You wrote "Signaler of the risk or roll over". Not sure exactly what you are asking, but the suspension of the A2 was improved to prevent rollover. Many of the improvements you mention happened in the M151A1, and the M151A2. In addition, a safety cage was also installed to protect the driver in the event of a rollover. Seat belts for security were only installed in the M151's with the Roll Over Protection System, but could have been also in the A1 type, not only A2 type.
Sorry if I added to the confusion.
Rainman
M151 World Land Speed Record Holder
Re: About A2 improvements
He meant turn signal. Signaler of risk of TURN, integrated and waterproof with four type of warning sparkles.Rainman wrote:Hey Muttero,
I do believe the language is a a small barrier. You wrote "Signaler of the risk or roll over". Not sure exactly what you are asking, but the suspension of the A2 was improved to prevent rollover. Many of the improvements you mention happened in the M151A1, and the M151A2. In addition, a safety cage was also installed to protect the driver in the event of a rollover. Seat belts for security were only installed in the M151's with the Roll Over Protection System, but could have been also in the A1 type, not only A2 type.
Sorry if I added to the confusion.
Rainman
Rick
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
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1984 M1008
1967 M416
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Re: About A2 improvements
The improvements to the rear suspension of the M151A2's is a big deal. The video below shows a standard M151A1 making a 90-degree turn at 11 miles per hour. *Disclosure... my comment is made in a joking manner (also see: "sarcasm"... also see "Hyperbole")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N309xX663cY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N309xX663cY
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Re: About A2 improvements
Well I think I understand wrong. I read in another forum that one of the improvements, was that the A2 has a system that advise you when you turn the car and the risk of roll over appear, then a light tells you that you are close to roll over. Thats what I thought it was, but it seems that is the turn lights.
On the other hand, Rain Man tells that many of the improvements I mentioned happened in the M151A1.
I need more info about this, because one of the offers I have is about a 151A1c, and would like to know what improves does this vehicule includes regarding the M151, and what improves it doesn´t have regarding the A2.
Thanks for your help
On the other hand, Rain Man tells that many of the improvements I mentioned happened in the M151A1.
I need more info about this, because one of the offers I have is about a 151A1c, and would like to know what improves does this vehicule includes regarding the M151, and what improves it doesn´t have regarding the A2.
Thanks for your help
1977 AMG M151 A2
1955 Oldsmobile Super 88
109" lightweight LR Santana
1951 Motobecane Av3
1956 Motobecane Av78
1981 Land Rover Santana 88" Especial
1978 series III 109" land rover Santana
Gone: M37b1, WC51, willys jeeps, M201 jeeps land rovers and so....
1955 Oldsmobile Super 88
109" lightweight LR Santana
1951 Motobecane Av3
1956 Motobecane Av78
1981 Land Rover Santana 88" Especial
1978 series III 109" land rover Santana
Gone: M37b1, WC51, willys jeeps, M201 jeeps land rovers and so....
Re: About A2 improvements
I don't think such a roll over warning systems exists. As you say, you might have confused it with the turn signals. However these are not something A2 specific, they are in use since the A1.
As replied in another post, the M151A1C has none of the improvements of the A2. Actually, without the weight of the gun and if it still has the overweight springs, it is even more prone for roll over than the standard A1. Remove those springs and you have a plain A1, suspension wise.
As replied in another post, the M151A1C has none of the improvements of the A2. Actually, without the weight of the gun and if it still has the overweight springs, it is even more prone for roll over than the standard A1. Remove those springs and you have a plain A1, suspension wise.
Horst
1972 USMC M151A2 w/ROPS (ex Barstow) and M416
1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga
1972 USMC M151A2 w/ROPS (ex Barstow) and M416
1962 M201 and trailer
1966 GTO,1982 E350 Skoolie, 1987 SJ413, 1987 911
Gone: 2xM35A2c, Unimog 404S, Hanomag AL28, DKW Munga
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Re: About A2 improvements
The M151A1 rides better than the A2. Any jeep or other 4 wheel drive vehicle with a high center of gravity will roll over during a hard turn. A M151 is no different than just about any other jeep, in that it must be driven sensibly.
Raymond
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Re: About A2 improvements
<<<Well I think I understand wrong. I read in another forum that one of the improvements, was that the A2 has a system that advise you when you turn the car and the risk of roll over appear, then a light tells you that you are close to roll over. >>>
It's a "translation" thing, guys. The A2 video commentary says something like...."The revised A2 rear suspension gives a warning sign that you are turning too fast......"
This has been translated by muttero (or his on-line language translator program) into a "warning light for turning".....
Muttero, there is no warning light for turning.....it literally means that if you are turning too fast, the A2 will tilt / lean over....which is the actual warning.
Does this make it clearer????
It's a "translation" thing, guys. The A2 video commentary says something like...."The revised A2 rear suspension gives a warning sign that you are turning too fast......"
This has been translated by muttero (or his on-line language translator program) into a "warning light for turning".....
Muttero, there is no warning light for turning.....it literally means that if you are turning too fast, the A2 will tilt / lean over....which is the actual warning.
Does this make it clearer????
Kind regards....
Ken
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Re: About A2 improvements
A 151a2 give you that body lean that normal solid axle cars have. Some times called the seat of your pants feel. It is the warning as muttguru said. Where as the A1 doesnt' give you any lean and therefor there isn't any warning when you roll.
There is one nut on a M151 that is very difficult to remove.....
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Re: About A2 improvements
The reason that the pic of the upsidedown M151A1 is that its a USAF FAC vehicle that has a large radio system mounted across the rear it also was very high too just about to the top giving a VERY high center of gravity, there was a warning sign on the dash 35 MPH MAX. SPEED. you can see the result, when it wasnt heeded.