The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sarmadq » August 19th, 2009, 1:30 am

rickf wrote:Think about it, where do you get the air from normally? The hole in the side of the hood. That is still cool air, and with no restriction.

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The air intake cover scoop does not allow a direct cool draft to be caught from the hole in the hood, rather the suction takes place from inside the engine bay, where the air is relatively hotter. Simpler than physics, is common sense.

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I don't agree with Sherwan's contraption because of the bends and the size of the channel the air is flowing in from.
If you have a 3inch hose pipe attached to the intake and out on the fender, that would be better.
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by Rainman » August 19th, 2009, 8:56 am

I'm still running civi plugs in standard aluminum adapters with no problems. Probably 900 miles on them since I put them in. :) I have no discernable leaks yet :P Personally I wouldn't be in a hurry to add a fording kit without waterproof plugs though.
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sherwan_88 » August 19th, 2009, 10:17 am

Rick,
I am the biggest idiot in the world. :oops:. The spark plug cable on cylinder no 2 was bad, that's why it was not idling properly and i felt the jolt, but its all good now, the mutt seems to run better on these plugs, somewhat smoother and quieter :roll: maybe its the pipe :roll:
but anyways after a few miles i'll pull the plugs and take some pictures and pop them in.

Sam,
The purpose of that oil bath is to filter the air, but the thing is it sucks in air through the hole rapidly then is the bowl which is big, so when air expands it cools down, the particles settle down on the oil, and the oil itself is a heat exchanger, you are taking the principle macro, but its micro, every car has its intake in the bay, even cold air intakes are mounted in the bay for any car where the air is hot, the principle applies to the movement of the air through the intake, so i think its pretty much cold air it sucks in. Since being a self-proclaimed idiot, i apologize if i've offended you, but i agree with Rick totally.

Yo Rainman!
All i need is some silicone and grease, and man i'm sinking this mutt deep :lol: ....Kidding!
The mechanic who overhauled the engine, is a personal friend, also a fan of the mutt, so he is very eager to ford in it! He's got a trick up his sleeve for the plugs, just waiting for him to let it out? :wink: :D

PS... Rick, any advice how to water proof these plugs? Silicone?
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by Floyd » August 19th, 2009, 12:39 pm

Sherwan: With all those military parts you have available how dificult would it be to go back to the stock system?

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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sherwan_88 » August 19th, 2009, 1:45 pm

Floyd,
Going back to stock is really easy and like in an hour or two, i have the stock parts, but the thing is they don't work well, for example the plugs cost $3 and are very old and so every plug has different mileage on it.
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sherwan_88 » August 19th, 2009, 1:51 pm

The Final Setup!
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by Horst » August 19th, 2009, 2:06 pm

compared to the stock fording intake it is still way too small tubing diameter
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by rickf » August 19th, 2009, 2:42 pm

OK, Now we are talking! Nice smooth bends and welded seams. Looks good. As far as sealing the spark plugs, I have always used dielectric grease on my CJ-7 and I have put that underwater many times with regular plugs and good quality wires. I don't know how you are attached to the distributor though.


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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sherwan_88 » August 19th, 2009, 4:02 pm

Horst,
Yes, that pipe is smaller, but i get more mileage with it :D

Rick,
I will go look for the dielectric grease tomorrow, i think its going to be tough job though.
Check out how the mutt sounds, its got more umphh, plus i got 5hp back from that lost 10! :D
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Almost forgot, i didn't do this myself, i gave the mutt for the day to a exhaust builder up in town, he fixed me up with this rig and for $23 weeeeeeeee! so all the credit goes to him! I aint takin any! :wink: :mrgreen:
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sarmadq » August 19th, 2009, 11:21 pm

Sherwan, so you have moved on to Jap stuff after all hun :lol: ........ you can have the autolite plugs shipped easily here or if someone is coming and going can bring along with a set of wires.
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sherwan_88 » August 20th, 2009, 11:05 am

Yeah, Jap stuff....
I'm an not so keen on importing stuff anymore, and i don't think any one i know is headed to the States in the near future.
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sarmadq » August 21st, 2009, 1:54 am

Sherwan,
Is the filter out in the open ? It seems prone to get wet in the rain, have you figured out a water discharge or do you plan to cover it when it rains ?
Which filter element is used ?
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Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away, Know when to Run !
You don't count your money, sitting at the table
There'll be time enough for counting
When the deal is Done !......

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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by sherwan_88 » August 21st, 2009, 11:52 am

Sam,
Yes the filter is out in the open, i don't intend to drive it when it rains, the element is plastic fiber.
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Re: The birth of hypocrisy and height of boredom

Unread post by Horst » August 21st, 2009, 12:11 pm

as we always say, it's yours and you can do with it whatever comes across your mind. In my opinion it is a shame to add this bubba stuff to a perfectly good M825...
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