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Cableado y conexiones

Unread post by rupert's » April 23rd, 2020, 6:41 pm

Hello everyone! I am taking advantage of the confinement to review the parts that I have to buy in the medium term to finish the restoration of the A2 ...
I am almost sure that my A2 was a donor of parts, so I have doubts in several aspects because I do not know how they were originally, now I am with the wiring and the problem I have is the following ...
My car did not have the turn signal control, so I have to buy it, but it did not have this box either: https://webwinkel.truckpartstrading.nl/ ... 93706.html

My question is: do I have to buy it because all A2 have it? or only some carry it? If I have to buy it, where is it placed?

Another electrical question ... I think that my spark distributor is missing a thread, I have an image that does not look very good but it can be used to know your opinion ...
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It has a solution? Or will I have to buy a new dealer for this?

The front wiring will surely also be new because it is in poor condition ...

I have seen that there are electrical parts that are separated by 25A or 100A ... should I take this into account to buy these parts?

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Re: Cableado y conexiones

Unread post by rickf » April 23rd, 2020, 7:44 pm

You will more than likely have a 60 amp alternator system on there if it is an A2. An A1 used the 25 amp generator and the 100 amp system was a special system used on searchlight vehicles. The 25 amp system used two belts, the 60 amp used three belts and the 100 amp used four belts. You do not want to try to go that route, finding all of the parts for the 100 amp system would be VERY expensive! On the distributor you are missing the inlet capacitor, this should be easily available at any surplus dealer, you will need this for the wire to the distributor to attach to.
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Unread post by Surveyor » April 23rd, 2020, 10:06 pm

rupert's wrote:
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My question is: do I have to buy it because all A2 have it? or only some carry it? If I have to buy it, where is it placed?
Yes you need it. Mounted under the cowl above the starter switch. Out of the way so boots do not snag the wires. You will also need the wire harness from the controller to the switch. There is also a special clamp that holds wire harness to steering column. Bought a couple off ebay awhile back so they are out there. https://www.ebay.com/itm/N-O-S-M151-M15 ... 2749.l2649

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Re: Cableado y conexiones

Unread post by rupert's » April 24th, 2020, 7:05 am

rickf wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 7:44 pm
You will more than likely have a 60 amp alternator system on there if it is an A2. An A1 used the 25 amp generator and the 100 amp system was a special system used on searchlight vehicles. The 25 amp system used two belts, the 60 amp used three belts and the 100 amp used four belts. You do not want to try to go that route, finding all of the parts for the 100 amp system would be VERY expensive! On the distributor you are missing the inlet capacitor, this should be easily available at any surplus dealer, you will need this for the wire to the distributor to attach to.
Hi Rickf! my motor is 3 belts so I am clear that it is 60A, Thanks! To the distributor I think what is missing is this piece:
I have looked for the capacitor, but the part in the picture is not included.
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Unread post by rupert's » April 24th, 2020, 7:12 am

Surveyor wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 10:06 pm
rupert's wrote:
April 23rd, 2020, 6:41 pm

My question is: do I have to buy it because all A2 have it? or only some carry it? If I have to buy it, where is it placed?
Yes you need it. Mounted under the cowl above the starter switch. Out of the way so boots do not snag the wires. You will also need the wire harness from the controller to the switch. There is also a special clamp that holds wire harness to steering column. Bought a couple off ebay awhile back so they are out there. https://www.ebay.com/itm/N-O-S-M151-M15 ... 2749.l2649

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According to Surveyor, then I have to buy the two pieces of the image, the black box and the cable ... I have a clamp for the steering column, does it have to have 2 clamps?
On the other hand, I do not see clearly where the black box is placed, can you confirm if it is placed at number 1 or number 2 in the image? a greeting
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Re: Cableado y conexiones

Unread post by Surveyor » April 24th, 2020, 9:09 am

rupert's wrote:
April 24th, 2020, 7:05 am
Hi Rickf! my motor is 3 belts so I am clear that it is 60A, Thanks! To the distributor I think what is missing is this piece:
I have looked for the capacitor, but the part in the picture is not included.
https://www.armyjeepparts.com/p-1194-ca ... butor.aspx
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Unread post by rickf » April 24th, 2020, 9:15 am

The receptical you show is part of what you need, you also need the inlet capacitor that goes inside the distributor that has the wire that attaches from the wiring harness outside the distributor and goes to the coil inside the distributor. As I am typing I see that Surveyor has beat me to it with a picture. The #1 position is where the box goes and the A2 wiring harness already has the turn signal wiring integrated into it I am pretty sure.
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Unread post by Surveyor » April 24th, 2020, 9:19 am

rupert's wrote:
April 24th, 2020, 7:12 am
According to Surveyor, then I have to buy the two pieces of the image, the black box and the cable ... I have a clamp for the steering column, does it have to have 2 clamps?
On the other hand, I do not see clearly where the black box is placed, can you confirm if it is placed at number 1 or number 2 in the image? a greeting
I believe only one clamp was used but I put two just to make sure it's kept out of the way.

See the two holes above the #1 arrow? Those are two mounting holes of the starter switch. I think once you get the pedal assembly & starter switch mounted you hopefully should see the two holes left over for the control box.
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the A2 wiring harness already has the turn signal wiring integrated into it I am pretty sure.
Did not know that. Learned something new. Do not need to purchase the wire harness then.
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Unread post by rickf » April 24th, 2020, 9:35 am

I didn't know it either until someone that put in an A2 harness in their A1 just told me not long ago. It makes sense since the A2 always had signals where the A1 started out as the straight and did not. The A1 and straight used the same harness. The original turn signal control unit was huge and had about 20 wires going in and out of it.
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Unread post by rupert's » April 24th, 2020, 5:09 pm

rickf wrote:
April 24th, 2020, 9:35 am
I didn't know it either until someone that put in an A2 harness in their A1 just told me not long ago. It makes sense since the A2 always had signals where the A1 started out as the straight and did not. The A1 and straight used the same harness. The original turn signal control unit was huge and had about 20 wires going in and out of it.
The translator is not very clear ... Entering, I do not have to buy the flashing black box or the connection cable. Understood right? The car wiring connects directly to the turn signal knob on the steering wheel. a greeting

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Unread post by rickf » April 24th, 2020, 5:36 pm

You DO need to buy the flashing box. IF you are buying a new A2 wiring harness you will NOT need a cable connection.


Necesitas comprar la caja intermitente. SI está comprando un nuevo arnés de cableado A2, NO necesitará una conexión de cable.
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone

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