Reserach on 10/66 MUTT

[ForkTech]

Hey Guys:
I just got my hands on a 1966 MUTT and am looking for some help. I have all the manuals and things i need right now, but can anyone tell me how to back search this unit: M151A1 / SN-2 N 1190 / DEL. DATE - 10-66. I see no cut marks on the frame or body, pretty much everything is there except for what the rust monster got.
Am looking to rebuild it and really would like to see if I can trace where all this unit has been.

Will get pictures posed in a day or two...

Thanks!

[Hambone]

Welcome to the site, Ken(muttguru) should chime in and may be able to help with more info., you should have a budd tag on the cowl right above the valve cover, see if it is still there. We love pics and ask all the questions, where are you located? Hambone

[rickf]

As far as finding out where it has physically been and what units it was in that will be tough. On Steel Soldiers they used to have a program that tracked those stats but I am not sure if it is still kept up and even if it is the M-151 was not very well documented. They tended to "get lost" a lot. Especially since there is no serial number in the body or frame and the data plate is easily removed and changed.

[acudanut]

Hey Guys:
I just got my hands on a 1966 MUTT and am looking for some help. I have all the manuals and things i need right now, but can anyone tell me how to back search this unit: M151A1 / SN-2 N 1190 / DEL. DATE - 10-66. I see no cut marks on the frame or body, pretty much everything is there except for what the rust monster got.
Am looking to rebuild it and really would like to see if I can trace where all this unit has been.

Will get pictures posed in a day or two...

Thanks!

"see if I can trace where all this unit has been". That is a next to impossible request. Good Luck though. Cheers !!

[muttguru]

Hey Guys:
I .. am looking for some help. .... M151A1 / SN-2 N 1190 / DEL. DATE - 10-66. ... would like to see if I can trace where all this unit has been.

Here's a very close relation to your A1. This one is 2N 1196 and it is an M151A1C Recoiless Rifle Carrier version.
As RRs were usually numbered in batches, it is possible that yours is/was a carrier also. Even if the RR fixtures and fittings are gone, there's always the possibility of tell-tale signs remaining...so post those pictures of it soon.

The picture below was taken in Vietnam...but date not known.
Ken

[ForkTech]

I have a few pictures posted now, and will post more when it will let me....You have got me pointed in the right direction and thanks...

[ForkTech]

ORD 8754459 / Budd S/N -36301

[Horst]

Very cool that you will save this one. How’s the underbody looking?
Guess Guy has a new customer;)

[ForkTech]

Under body is all there, except for 1 axle that has been broken. It has some rust, but noting I can't handle. Still searching out the serial number to see if I can track it...that's going to be a big job, I know...Thanks and can't wait to get started and will keep everyone updated..

[rickf]

You have already given all the numbers you will have. The ORD and BUDD numbers were the numbers assigned on the assembly line when it was built and they were used for the line and the data plate numbers were the "Serial Number" assigned to that vehicle by the military. That is the number that would be on the hood. There are no other numbers on the vehicle so don't go nuts searching. The M-151 did not ever have a true serial number from the factory like most vehicles. This has caused a lot of problems over the years for collectors trying to get titles. You have to remember that the 151 series were all for the most part supposed to be demilled and never meant to be in civilian use.

[ForkTech]

Oh yeah, from all the reading I have done so far I think there were around a 1000 were not demilled or destroyed I have searched this unit and see no place that is has been put back together. I have a friend that is well educated on older military equipment and he is elated that I found this...he said the only thing he saw missing on it was the pindle hitch, everything else was in place I know I have along way to go with this.
As I was a E-5 in the Army in 74, I drove my 1St LT around in one, had to maintain it...it was fun to drive...

[rickf]

There are a lot more than 1000 of them uncut. How many survive is unknown. They did not start cutting them until 2/1973 and they were not real strict about checking the cuts at that point so a LOT of them slipped through without full cuts or at the bottom of the stack uncut. A couple years later they got much more strict about checking and they also started requiring a specified amount of material be cut out of the center so they could not simply be welded back together. Then in 4/81 they started to cut them in 4 pieces and also crush the rear halves of the half cuts.
I see a couple things on yours that are not there or original, The fuel line fitting going into the carb is actually a plumbing fitting screwed into a straight thread in the carb. And I don't see the top bows unless they came separate. Either way it does look complete. I guarantee that gas tank is probably toast. The spare engine is an A2 so you will need to change the pulleys, fuel pump and generator bracket. Unless you decide to stay with the later stuff.

[ForkTech]

Thanks for that info and will do more searching to make sure it has not been cut. Yep, fuel tank is toast. Can you tell my where To find a complete body breakdown, as I see someone has patched some of the body parts. Any help appreciated...

Thanks Again rickf!

[rickf]

If by body breakdown you mean all of the bits and pieces that make up the unibody, You are not going to find anything like that. That would have been the sole property of the manufacturer and all those plans disappeared with them. Nobody knows nothin'. There is no paper trail on these vehicles at all save for what Ken has been able to dredge up in the way of manuals and newspaper clippings. Once the body leaves the factory in it's finished solid welded form it is consider a one piece unit so nothing in the way of separate body parts will be listed short of the underbody repair kit. And a fender repair kit for the A2's. There was also a rear light retrofit kit to put A2 rear lights on an A1 but that was a modification work order I believe.

[lpcoating]

Let me know if you need any body panels.

www.m151bodypanels.com

Guy