Hoods
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Hoods
Hello everyone! I have been restoring an A2 for a long time ... Soon I will finish the body part and I am thinking of buying the canvas hood soon. I have found two different references but I don't know what real difference there is ... maybe the color? The material?
The two references are:
2540-01-2173 https://www.armyparts4u.com/en/jeep-mut ... lding-top/
2540-01-020-2173 https://www.us-army-military-shop.de/pr ... ts_id=2636
I have also seen other tarps that only cover the top and not the back, do you know what differences there are when using them? Are they more practical or do they have any other advantages?
I hope you can help me with a little information to decide to buy one or the other ... Regards
The two references are:
2540-01-2173 https://www.armyparts4u.com/en/jeep-mut ... lding-top/
2540-01-020-2173 https://www.us-army-military-shop.de/pr ... ts_id=2636
I have also seen other tarps that only cover the top and not the back, do you know what differences there are when using them? Are they more practical or do they have any other advantages?
I hope you can help me with a little information to decide to buy one or the other ... Regards
Re: Hoods
The tops you show there are vinyl and not canvas. I am pretty sure they only used canvas on maybe the first year of the A2? Ken the Muttguru would have more info on that. They found out real fast in Vietnam that canvas rotted in the jungle atmosphere so they replaced all the tops with vinyl. And as far as color there are four different colors of green. It is sort of a crapshoot what you are going to get when you buy a top since they were not labeled as different. And as far as which one out of the two listed, they should both be the same, color not withstanding.
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone
Re: Hoods
1) There are vinyl tops and there are canvas tops. A2's had vinyl.
2) It's your vehicle and you can put whatever top you want on yours but generally the canvas tops would be more for straights and a1's.
3) Canvas tops come in two styles - two back windows were the first ones and later came the one window version.
4) Vinyl is one window only and should hold up better in wet, humid environments.
5) Vinyl comes in several colors - od green, grey, and forest green + ????
6) Your best bet for a canvas these days is reproductions. Color dependent on the canvas they use.
7) Not sure about what tarps you are talking about. The top's (vinyl or canvas) rear can be pulled up underneath the top and attached to the front bow support so it looks more open. If you didn't have a top cover in the field I'm sure improvisation was used with tarps, ponchos, etc.
Some of the reproduction canvas sites make "summer" tops which are not authentic and do not cover the rear.
2) It's your vehicle and you can put whatever top you want on yours but generally the canvas tops would be more for straights and a1's.
3) Canvas tops come in two styles - two back windows were the first ones and later came the one window version.
4) Vinyl is one window only and should hold up better in wet, humid environments.
5) Vinyl comes in several colors - od green, grey, and forest green + ????
6) Your best bet for a canvas these days is reproductions. Color dependent on the canvas they use.
7) Not sure about what tarps you are talking about. The top's (vinyl or canvas) rear can be pulled up underneath the top and attached to the front bow support so it looks more open. If you didn't have a top cover in the field I'm sure improvisation was used with tarps, ponchos, etc.
Some of the reproduction canvas sites make "summer" tops which are not authentic and do not cover the rear.
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"There is one nut on a M151 that is very difficult to remove....." - K8icu
"She ain't a Cadillac and she ain't a Rolls, But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio" - Aaron Tippin
Re: Hoods
Wow! two answers that fast! thanks!
okay! vinyl or canvas ... the material does not worry me, it was a way of saying it.
I understand then that I must buy it from vinyl and that the reference is the same regardless of the color, I can only contact the seller to know exactly if I buy a green or a forest green ...
On the other hand I also don't care if it has a rear window or two
Surveyor reproductions where can I find them?
-I don't understand what you mean by "the canvas tops would be more for straights"
Again thank you very much for your wisdom!
okay! vinyl or canvas ... the material does not worry me, it was a way of saying it.
I understand then that I must buy it from vinyl and that the reference is the same regardless of the color, I can only contact the seller to know exactly if I buy a green or a forest green ...
On the other hand I also don't care if it has a rear window or two
Surveyor reproductions where can I find them?
-I don't understand what you mean by "the canvas tops would be more for straights"
Again thank you very much for your wisdom!
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Re: Hoods
Canvas was used on the M151 (also called a "straight"), the M151A1, and the very early M151A2. The first couple of years of canvas had a double rear window. Vinyl was used later on all models in service, including any remaining M151, M151A1, and M151A2 models. Vinyl tops came in several shades of green, and there seems to be no differntiation in how they were issued, and to what branch of service the different colors of vinyl tops were to. Any branch of the military and any particular unit might have a mix of different color tops, doors, and side curtains on any vehicle.
Raymond
"On the day when crime puts on the apparel of innocence, through a curious reversal peculiar to our age, it is innocence that is called on to justify itself." Albert Camus
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Re: Hoods
Rupert......
Essentially, there are tops with one rear window and tops with two rear windows. Tops are also in canvas and vinyl.
There are also those color variations too.
Two-Window Tops
These were ALWAYS in canvas. They were issued from 1960 to late 1969.
One-Window Tops
These were issued from 1970 and came with the newly codified M151A2 model. They were in canvas.
Note-1: These canvas tops continued to be issued until stocks ran out.
Note-2: These tops were also issued for use on M151 and M151A1 trucks when two-window tops went out-of-stock.
Note-3: The vinyl top was not codified until 1976. If it is authenticity you require, your A2 should be one-window. It may be canvas for a vehicle delivered up to 1976/77, thereafter it should be vinyl. But it's your jeep !
hope this helps....
Ken
Essentially, there are tops with one rear window and tops with two rear windows. Tops are also in canvas and vinyl.
There are also those color variations too.
Two-Window Tops
These were ALWAYS in canvas. They were issued from 1960 to late 1969.
One-Window Tops
These were issued from 1970 and came with the newly codified M151A2 model. They were in canvas.
Note-1: These canvas tops continued to be issued until stocks ran out.
Note-2: These tops were also issued for use on M151 and M151A1 trucks when two-window tops went out-of-stock.
Note-3: The vinyl top was not codified until 1976. If it is authenticity you require, your A2 should be one-window. It may be canvas for a vehicle delivered up to 1976/77, thereafter it should be vinyl. But it's your jeep !
hope this helps....
Ken
Kind regards....
Ken
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Re: Hoods
Thanks for the muttguru answer, very technical and precise
I don't know what year my A2 is made ... The seller could not tell me. I will buy the one of a window and surely in vinyl, It is the most abundant and easy to find. I guess vinyl will be better than canvas in duration and use, so everything points to vinyl. a greeting
I don't know what year my A2 is made ... The seller could not tell me. I will buy the one of a window and surely in vinyl, It is the most abundant and easy to find. I guess vinyl will be better than canvas in duration and use, so everything points to vinyl. a greeting
- raymond
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Re: Hoods
rupert's
Forgot to say, welcome to the forum.
Where are you located
Forgot to say, welcome to the forum.
Where are you located
Raymond
"On the day when crime puts on the apparel of innocence, through a curious reversal peculiar to our age, it is innocence that is called on to justify itself." Albert Camus
"On the day when crime puts on the apparel of innocence, through a curious reversal peculiar to our age, it is innocence that is called on to justify itself." Albert Camus