Found on CL - (Not Mine) 2019

[m3a1]

Wow! A two-for-one special! It comes with a sob story AND an alibi.

[rickf]

Damn, You are brutal! The title should be replaceable if it was a real title.

[muttguru]

Just found this one on ebay. Looks like a Titan to me (I should know better than to guess) after my earlier post this week !

Looks like a nice one...and not too expensive at this stage..... Interesting engine.....
Ken

https://www.ebay.com/itm/293304185508?ul_noapp=true

[rickf]

I din't see that lift kit holding up for very long, especially those posts that are holding the front differential. I remember the Cosworth Vega had an overhead cam engine but it had a regular type valve cover. I do not recall ever seeing one of these in a Chevette. Maybe since I seldom ever worked on Chevettes? It is clean and solid but that suspension appears shaky.

[acudanut]

Another E-Bay joke. https://www.ebay.com/itm/293304185508
We know it's a Titan, not a AM General

[rickf]

Same one that Ken posted above.

[muttguru]

Evening all.....

Here's something you don't see every day. It's an uncut Willys Motors straight M151 (not A1). It has lots of early bits and pieces and with that Serial Number, it would appear to be the 118th vehicle in Willys' first contract.

It obviously needs a lot of work so I think he's asking a LOT of money...... will be interesting to see what it goes for...if it actually does sell.

ps... It may be a good idea for him to READ his dash dataplate. Contrary to what he writes, it actually IS a Willys, not a Ford.
Ken

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-FORD ... SwrsVdcTag

[rickf]

Interesting considering he has a real Willys pickup sitting there in the yard. A lot of late and aftermarket stuff on that one. That heater is not original but certainly does seem to fit in there quite well.

[acudanut]

Muttguru, that is a lot of coin for that Mutt. I wouldn't give him 500 for it.

[m3a1]

Muttguru, that is a lot of coin for that Mutt. I wouldn't give him 500 for it.

I think we have just identified how thought processes differ between people with scholarly interests and people who wanna go out and play in the mud !!

[acudanut]

If that's a insult thanks a lot. It being a Willy's does nothing for me. I thought Ford had the contract first anyway.

[Hambone]

I think he means the Willys are kind of rare.

[m3a1]

I mean that its value resides in the fact that it is apparently #118 of that production run which is pretty early. Thus, if someone were to acquire it (all consideration of the dollar valuation put aside) much might be learned about production techniques at that time or other such minuscule information. Information that serves to fill in the blanks about our trucks' long heritage.

Not everything's value revolves solely around whether or not you can take it out and play with it.

THAT is my point.

Another example of this might be found in an M1 Garand I once had. Extremely low serial number, manufactured Oct 1941. At the time, I was hard up for cash and put it up for sale. A guy came, had the money to buy, but revealed he intended to "sporterize it." Needless to say, I didn't sell it to him. He didn't appreciate the value of a long-serving, long-surviving artifact and IMHO, wasn't worthy of owning of it. Kinda the same concept.

[Surveyor]

Miniscule Info example - another possible way to tell a straight from a1?

Most images i have reviewed the rear reflector on early is mounted above trailer receptacle. On a1 it is mounted just high and left of driver side stoplight. Why do I know? Some previous owner tried awful hard into making mine look like an a1. So much so that they evrn moved the reflector and put bondo in the original old holes. At first I thought I was looking for some weird radio bracket till the light bulb went off.

[muttguru]

So much so that they even moved the reflector and put bondo in the original old holes. At first I thought I was looking for some weird radio bracket till the light bulb went off.

Surveyor..... there's a little bit more to it than that.
On the 20th December 1962, the Army HQ issued a modification work order, MWO9-2320-218-20/8.
The purpose of the mod was....."for the safety of personnel and to prevent serious damage to equipment." The MWO went on to describe the work to be done... (a) to relocate the left rear reflector and (b) to relocate the outer back curtain strap fastener loop.
When installed, the rear of the canvas top covered the left reflector, so the footman loop was re-positioned and the reflector also...with the reflector almost level with the edge of the rear corner and almost touching the left-hand rear light.

Oddly enough, a revised MWO was issued on the 21st October 1963 (same MWO number) but the wording was changed.... the reason for the MWO now stated...."This MWO will be applied to all vehicles with reflector located at the upper left corner of the rear panel." The earlier version of the MWO was quite specific....."This MWO will be applied to all vehicles below US Registration No. 2D 4949."

From that, we can assume that when Willys Motors started production, they too must have delivered some of their vehicles with the incorrect placement of reflector and footman loop. Yes, exciting stuff !
Ken